Marian: Why do we have leaders that don’t accept the …

Comment on God, Sky & Land – by Brian Bull and Fritz Guy by Holly Pham.

Marian: Why do we have leaders that don’t accept the Bible for what is says and always trying to make God saying something he isn’t.

Great question. Why does La Sierra hire people who do not believe the Bible for what it actually says? Does anyone have an answer? Does the Board not care? Do the constituents not care? Does ANYONE care?

Holly Pham Also Commented

God, Sky & Land – by Brian Bull and Fritz Guy
Thank you Bill for caring as I also do. We do have some who take our religion seriously and not as some kind of secular philosophy to adapt to others’ worldly standards.


God, Sky & Land – by Brian Bull and Fritz Guy
What in this world is wrong with US? Is the Michigan Conference the only organization in our whole church that is willing to stand up and be counted?.

It appears so. Even the Central California Conference, since Jerry Page has left, is completely silent!


God, Sky & Land – by Brian Bull and Fritz Guy

Why don’t these folks just form a new denomination like the Sunday folks have done many times, instead of sticking in a church with which they do not agree and then pulling at the doctrines like taffy? I just don’t understand . . .

As others have stated before, these types of people want to destroy our SDA Church from within, rather than forming their own denomination. They don’t have the numbers, either of people or dollars to do it on their own.

That is why they not only attack our SDA Church’s beliefs, but also, in many cases get paid from the Church as well! Check it out yourselves.


Recent Comments by Holly Pham

NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science

Shayne:
Why do accrediting bodies have the right to force religious universities to teach what they demand they teach? Is it not a violation of religious freedom to demand that evolution exist as the only exclusive worldview? Why have we given scientists the role of Papel See?

La Sierra is under no demand to teach “evolution as fact” as many other colleges and universities, SDA and non-SDA teach “about evolution” but do not teach it as factual. La Sierra WANTS to teach evolution as fact, and will do anything it can to keep on keeping on teaching it!


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

David&#032Read: @Sean Pitman: There is certainly documentation somewhere of what the remainder of the bond funds was spent on. I imagine that the University was required by the bond trustee to document the capital projects the money was used on (because the funds could not be used for salaries or ordinary current operation expenses). So this is probably a public document that can be obtained through the freedom of information act.Also, I imagine that this information has been made available to the Board of Trustees and/or constituents, so if you have any contacts in those bodies, ask for the information.Keep digging, because you or Shane will find this information somewhere.

Dave, I agree with you completely. We need to have this investigated by somebody or some SDA group, preferably the GC. But, I do not think anyone there will step up to do it. So, we do need Shane, Sean, or someone.


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

Charles: the

Charles, I agree with you. But, this type of reasoning is very common among liberals. This past Sabbath on LLBN, John Jones and Ivan Blazen tried to convince Carolyn Thompson that sin is “relative” meaning that something may be a sin to one person, but not to another.

She questioned them, and offered examples, and they stuck to this idea.


Dr. Ariel Roth’s Creation Lectures for Teachers

ken:
That is why I remain open to scientific investigation of the concept of Intelligent Design. In fact, as many of you know, I have advocated for and agreed to support a Chair in Intelligent Design at any Adventist university. Strangely, not a single person has taken me up on the idea. Why?

Your agnostic friend
Ken

Ken, No “Chair of Intellegent Design” needs to be started, since our whole philosophy is of Intellegent Creationism. Nobody has taken you up on it because it is not needed. We need to have our SDA institutions supporting all of our beliefs, not just one “Chair”.


Changing the Wording of Adventist Fundamental Belief #6 on Creation

Bill&#032Taylor:
By faith you believe in creation and by faith you believe in evolution!!What do you want to place your faith in God or Man?

You are completely correct. Who are we to believe? God? Man’s “wisdom?” Liberals and progressives believe in human wisdom over what God has said.

We see that at La Sierra, very prominently, and they are PROUD of it!