@Ken: So it was not OK for the Catholics to …

Comment on “Don’t go backwards to interpret Genesis as allegorical or symbolic” by Sean Pitman.

@Ken:

So it was not OK for the Catholics to strong arm Galileo because The Catholics were wrong about their science, but it is OK for the SDA to sanction the LSU biology professors, and perhaps Dr. Clausen, because the SDA is absolutely right about its science. Is that about the gist of it?

Not quite.

The Catholic Church wasn’t so much wrong in wanting to defend its own views of what it thought was right at the time, but in appealing to the arm of civil power and authority to enforce its views on civil society at large. In other words, no one could just leave the Catholic Church or challenge the Catholic Church at all – not even from outside of the Church because there was no viable option to leave it.

This was a huge mistake. It is never ever good for a church of any kind to take on civil powers and authority in order to enforce its views on general society – never. This does not mean, however, that a Church organization need not enforce its views on its own employees who freely choose to represent the Church on the Church’s dime…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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“Don’t go backwards to interpret Genesis as allegorical or symbolic”
@Bravus:

“…and there was rejoicing in heaven, for lo, many would be driven forth from the True Church into outer darkness.”

Hmm, I’m pretty sure that’s not how I remember that one going.

All are welcome who actually wish to worship with the SDA Church body – regardless of their opinions or background. However, not all are welcome to expect a paycheck from the Church as paid representatives of what the SDA Church stands for because not all who would take such a paycheck actually subscribe to the Pillars of the SDA faith.

Try not to confuse these concepts…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


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