In reading these comments I note that the expected issue …

Comment on Christians and the Sabbath by wesley kime.

In reading these comments I note that the expected issue has indeed come up, though very succinctly, almost perfunctorily, in a way fittingly so, symbolically so. Why so much fuss, research, detail over a silly little thing like the 7th day Sabbath?

Those of us who still adhere to the founding SDA doctrine of the crucial importance of the Sabbath, as proclaimed even by the name of our denomination, increasing in importance as the End approaches, becoming virtually a yes-no signal to the world of crucial obedience to God’s seemingly arbitrary command at pain of perhaps our own lives, to those of us who still hold to that, Sean’s detail and research is utterly exciting. We are supremely thankful, hardly bored.

Speaking for myself, I don’t believe I’ve been treated to such a scholarly, well-researched comprehensive history of the observance Sabbath and the timeline and persons active in the emergence of Sunday as a replacement. This is pure history, necessary history. Our historians seem otherwise occupied, mostly with what I see as silly little diversions, analogous to how some see the Sabbath. Somebody had to get back to basics, and Sean did.

Now we know the cast of characters. Their thinking, reasoning, the philosophic conceits and declamations, the swirling, complex winds of thought that swept the 7th day out and brought the 1st in, and the new storm of “emergent thought” currently in action to enhance and ensure that switch, for the moment rendering neither day a sign of obedience but merely a nice, even God-given, necessary day off from the increasingly stressful week, an oasis in the radioactive ruins, yet another blessing like the shade of spreading maple trees, while Jesus without imposing any commandment saves us without ado, are not the focus of Sean’s monograph, as I read it. These deviations and thrusts of philosophy behind the transition and how the competing holy days are now regarded, indeed must be considered in order to make sense of how crucial is obedience to the 7th day command. But it was at least as crucial that the history of the 7th and the 1st day be put down first.

We now have that. Thanks, Sean.

wesley kime Also Commented

Christians and the Sabbath
@george: Howdy, ole pard, ole sidekick. Yup, long ‘o tooth, that’s me. ‘N how long you’n me been out hee-are on sheriff Sean’s ole badlands, a-palaverin’ with our city-slicker Beverly hillbilly-li’l Abner -Wyatt Earp-Rick O’Shay aykscents? ‘Bout hey-uff a decade, ah reckon. Ah may be gettin’ so old ah’m a-losin’ me marbles, but by cracky if ah ain’t purty sure we been goin’ roun-‘n-roun in these here same egg-nostic ruts more’n a hunnerd times now, same tumblin’ tumble weeds, same ole egg-nostic prickly pears, same ole mirages, all dried up by now. Wall, whadeva ‘t takes, ‘cause you’n me’ll we’ll be a-strummin’ ‘n a-pickin’ ‘n a-circlin’ on into the sunset, sho-nuff hope so.


Christians and the Sabbath
@Kerry Wynne: Reader Wynne’s contribution is not at all unwelcome, for it is timely, providing a cogent precisely obverse support for the validity of God’s great gift to mankind, the 7th day. As Mr. Wynne says, “for those of you who are interested” in who Wynne is, the following is how he introduces himself, http://www.bible.ca/7-sabbathgate-1888ad-Kerry-Wynne.htm “I am a third generation Seventh-day Adventist of over 50 years of sabbath Keeping … [but] no longer believe in Ellen White. After a review of what was available on the Internet regarding the Sabbath versus Sunday question… I began attending a Bible-only, full Gospel, non-denominational church on Sunday morning. That was about four years ago. Fear of God and His judgment has been replaced with ever-increasing love for Him … Adventism is a more dangerous cult than ever.”

Now then, Wynne’s and my journey are rather similar, though in altogether opposite directions. I, like him, am a third generation Seventh-day Adventist of over 50 years (more like over 80 years) of sabbath keeping, and after reviewing the Bible, not the internet, and my own inner self, in communion with Jesus who Himself gave us the Sabbath, having rested on it at Creation and during it for our redemption, I am convinced that Seventh-day Adventism is a more pivotal message than ever.


Christians and the Sabbath
@george: Bless my slicked up or down mustache if palaverin’ with you ain’t like chasin’ after a tumbleweed. But you’ll never hear from me a discouraging word, out here on Sheriff Sean’s celestial range. Saddle up and tumble on!


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Informative and stimulating, but proceeding into more confusion. A veteran of Moderna vaccinations, I trust, hope, they are effective, at least until otherwise. The whole business, being part of End Times, is in the hands of God, not humans expert and as degreed as they may be.


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Brilliant, beautiful, and so right! Speaking of your presentation at LLU recently. Great to see you and your family (especially my namesake, Wes. God bless! WK


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@Bob Helm: Dr. Sanford is very familiar to most of us. He was invited to speak at LLU several years ago and I and a great many were privileged to hear him.


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Hats off yet again to Sean for pursuing this topic as a scientist should, no nonsense, and in it’s proper setting — as a revival of one of the ancient ideas recently upgraded as a desperate alternative to the increasingly compelling intelligent design data. I had occasion to review panspermia a few years ago and as is my wont I found it more amusing than scientific. If you would like what was intended to be a satirical response to panspermia and other related curiosities you could check out: http://www.iessaythere.com/black-hole-humor.html
Meantime, Sean’s article is of far more cogent worth.


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As he has done on this site many times, Sean in his line-by-line-item response to C. White (not EG or EB) has, to my mind, clearly enunciated the issue and resolution.

When all the hermeneutics, quoting, and arguing and inordinately judgmental riposte are over, it comes down, as I understand it, to two things: 1) Whether the 7th day Sabbath (whether enunciated in the famous 10 commandments or otherwise) is still valid, and 2) Does the grace obtained by the vicarious sacrifice by the shedding of Christ’s blood or other divine process too deep for us to understand in this life, cover every sin automatically and without ado, altogether passively on our part, or is it only on condition that we first totally and deeply accept it? Other details always hassled forever are distractions.

I accept that I must accept it, wholly, actively, even with agony, with my whole being.