@ken: “…a PENULTIMATE deity…” I Just can’t let that …

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@ken: “…a PENULTIMATE deity…” I Just can’t let that one go by.

By whim or whimsy you may willy-nilly consign the cosmic Ultimacy to myth, metaphor, metonym, or model; to M, string, or Gaia theory; to quark or quantum; to geometric form, bronze, marble, or electronic, JPEG or TIFF; to pantheism or atheism, but never consign Him to penultimacy. Thanks, friend.

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A big reason why so many people are leaving the church
@BobRyan: Assigning digits, to the nth decimal, to faith and evidence? 23.4% Impressive! Rather like Ivory Soap is 99.44% pure, Obama’s approval rating as of 10;05.66 AM is 43.68%, the precision itself being 99.44% evidence of validity, or are we to receive it 100.00003% on faith? Studies show that such postings are 78.88% belittling.


A big reason why so many people are leaving the church
@Ken:
Now you’re getting exegetical! Me, when I look at that particular text, rereading it again and again, my eyes always see “made.” Right there, in B&W, regardless of version, in Times New Roman or some totally legible sans serif font, on paper or Kindle, wherever you want to look. He that hath eyes… (need I?) You’re seeing “evolved”? How’d you do that! Better yet, why? Better yet, sigh…

Meanwhile back to faith vs. evidence, Bible vs. mind — my eyes always see BOTH, not one or the other. Like love & marriage, efferent & afferent, autonomic and voluntary nervous systems. Sympathetic and parasympathetic. Eccrine & apocrine. Like male and female at the altar (not…need I?). He made them (no, not evolved them) both, separate but equal, equally crucial.

Mercifully, people seem quick enough to see the difference as well as the connection between male & female than faith & evidence, or used to. But nowadays … (need I?). Well, that’s what it’s come to, in this cheery, whimsical, channel-gender-switching postmodern age. Have a good agnoevolution!


A big reason why so many people are leaving the church
@Ken: And greetings to you!

But my immediate question is, is Martin any relation to Kingsley, the Sir Kingsley Amis? He is: son, which of course you know. Doesn’t everybody?

Though circular, as you say, Amis’s anti-postmodernist reasoning (what he’s famous for, besides fiction, like his dad) is fine, and I’m in his circle. Hail, fellow anti-Postmodernist Orbiteer! Too bad there’s nothing, not even stray cosmic dust, at the center.

Meanwhile, anent Ex 3:14, I AM THAT I AM (Ex 3:14 KJV), if that is circularity it is the consummate and ultimate circle encompassing every other circle and orbit from subatomic to hypergalaxic, not just a circle but a sphere, encompassing and enclosing, at once orbit and nucleus, the very nucleus of the cosmos, is what I think about Ex 3:14. And John 8:58, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

Meanwhile?


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Brilliant, beautiful, and so right! Speaking of your presentation at LLU recently. Great to see you and your family (especially my namesake, Wes. God bless! WK


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@Bob Helm: Dr. Sanford is very familiar to most of us. He was invited to speak at LLU several years ago and I and a great many were privileged to hear him.


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Hats off yet again to Sean for pursuing this topic as a scientist should, no nonsense, and in it’s proper setting — as a revival of one of the ancient ideas recently upgraded as a desperate alternative to the increasingly compelling intelligent design data. I had occasion to review panspermia a few years ago and as is my wont I found it more amusing than scientific. If you would like what was intended to be a satirical response to panspermia and other related curiosities you could check out: http://www.iessaythere.com/black-hole-humor.html
Meantime, Sean’s article is of far more cogent worth.


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As he has done on this site many times, Sean in his line-by-line-item response to C. White (not EG or EB) has, to my mind, clearly enunciated the issue and resolution.

When all the hermeneutics, quoting, and arguing and inordinately judgmental riposte are over, it comes down, as I understand it, to two things: 1) Whether the 7th day Sabbath (whether enunciated in the famous 10 commandments or otherwise) is still valid, and 2) Does the grace obtained by the vicarious sacrifice by the shedding of Christ’s blood or other divine process too deep for us to understand in this life, cover every sin automatically and without ado, altogether passively on our part, or is it only on condition that we first totally and deeply accept it? Other details always hassled forever are distractions.

I accept that I must accept it, wholly, actively, even with agony, with my whole being.


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The confession that Szostak made is boggling! If anybody has been on a “journey”, Szostak has! And this analysis by Sean of that journey and its implications is truly awesome. It should be published widely… I’m surprised nobody has commented on it yet. No comment could do it justice.

I’m reduced to being simply curious. Was there talk of rescinding Szostak’s Nobel? I propose another Nobel category: a prize for most honest scientist, and Szostak would be the first winner. Few other scientists would be eligible, particularly among evolutionary scientists, who collectively seem to have suffered a blindness mutation. He should be TIME’s Man of the Year.